Episode 10

Educate, Not Legislate: The Teal Shirt Strategy Explained (ft. Dianna Muller)

Published on: 23rd April, 2026

This week, John sits down with Dianna Muller to discuss the growing role of women in the fight for the Second Amendment.

A retired law enforcement officer, professional competitive shooter, and founder of the DC Project and Women for Gun Rights, Dianna shares how she transitioned from policing to full-time advocacy and why the female voice is critical in today’s gun rights movement.

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About the Podcast

State of the Second
The State of The Second, an interview style podcast focusing on the impact that legislation and activism is having on the firearms industry, and the second amendment community.
"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry.

Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."