Episode 6

The ATF’S Two Faced Approach to Import/Export & Debunking Misconceptions About Turkish - Made Firearms | #6 SAR Firearms

Published on: 11th October, 2023

This week on State of the Second, Kailey and John sit down with VP of sales, marketing and product development of SAR Firearms, Jacob Phair.

They address the full spectrum of issues and logistical considerations surrounding firearm imports, while also dissecting perceived inconsistencies within the ATF and deliberating on the potential consequences of the Safer Banking Act.

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State of the Second
The State of The Second, an interview style podcast focusing on the impact that legislation and activism is having on the firearms industry, and the second amendment community.
"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry.

Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."