Episode 14

The Gun That Could Change Recoil Forever (ft. Rock Island Armory)

Published on: 21st May, 2026

This week, John and Kailey sit down with John McClain from Rock Island Armory to break down the INSANE recoil system behind the Rock Island 5.0, the future of the 22 TCM round, and what really goes into developing firearms from concept to production. From affordable 1911s to next-generation innovation, this episode dives deep into the mindset and mission behind one of the most underrated companies in the firearms industry.

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About the Podcast

State of the Second
The State of The Second, an interview style podcast focusing on the impact that legislation and activism is having on the firearms industry, and the second amendment community.
"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry.

Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."