Episode 15

This Gen Z Entrepreneur Is Changing How the Marines Train (ft. Infinite Defense)

Published on: 14th May, 2025

In this episode, John and Kailey sit down with Elijah, founder of Infinite Defense, to talk about how his startup went from a garage concept to becoming a go-to solution for military, law enforcement, and civilian shooters alike. Whether you're military, law enforcement, a trainer, or a weekend shooter—this is the episode that might just change the way you run your range.

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About the Podcast

State of the Second
The State of The Second, an interview style podcast focusing on the impact that legislation and activism is having on the firearms industry, and the second amendment community.
"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry.

Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."